AA doesn’t cure you from the problem you came there for. The problem is not Drinking, or Alcohol it self, it is that you have developed a addiction for whatever reason. That is the problem. But they don’t want to cure you of that because then you wouldn’t need AA for the rest of your life.
You need a new drug and that is AA. witch has some pretty destructive properties itself in your personal life.
read letters on: http://www.orange-papers.org/
You may have a addiction, but should you identify your self, essentially, as that addiction. If you are Fat, how much good does it do to identify your self as Fat. Almost All psychiatry would say no! think of yourself as what you want to be. If I have problems lying, it does not help me to say I am a powerless lyer. Thats who I am and will always be. This all makes sense when you realize addiction is your problem, not drinking. And now you have only transferred your addiction to AA and other things.
It encourages in the big book to eat more sugar and drink more coffee, most AA peeps die of cancer Im sure. And many of them probably sooner than if they would have stayed on the drink. Bill W. smoked himself to death and even calling it just a minor bad habit and going to great lengths to defend it. Too bad AA never addressed the real problem. And he was true to his word, he begged for whiskey as he lay dying many times. I would think he would be praying to his higher power or something. I guess we know who his true God was. What ruled his life, it was alcohol, he was never freed from it.
And AA’ers will never be free either. They are in bondage to the end. Never to recover, only to be recovering. Always a addict, always a slave to their desires. Indirectly letting the Bottle control their life where as it directly controlled it before.
Cheever came to the pages covering Christmas 1970. On the eve of the holiday, Bill Wilson passed a fitful night. A lifelong smoker, he had been fighting emphysema for years, and now he was losing the battle. Nurse James Dannenberg was on duty in the last hour before dawn. At 6:10 a.m. on Christmas morning, according to Dannenberg’s notes, the man who sobered up millions “asked for three shots of whiskey.”
He was quite upset when he didn’t get them, Cheever writes.
Wilson asked for booze again about a week later, on Jan. 2, 1971.
And on Jan. 8.
And on Jan. 14.
I’ve been addicted to one thing or another my whole life, and unlike most AA’ers I can follow rule number four and be truthful with myself. Drunks are selfish people, narcissistic to the nth degree.
They are victims there whole life, and feed from being victims. Then comes AA the perfect place to be a life long victim, to wallow in it each day, and to gain some respectability being in the exclusive club of victims. “eternal recovering AA’ers” still suck from the tit of their weakness and never grow up and away to stand on their own. It is the constant focus of their life, and they can’t conceive of alcohol not being the focus of their life so they make it a focus in another way. By being addicted to a group built on Alcohol. Day in and day out talking, pontificating, and reminiscing about their old lover Alcohol. Like a sad o’l man that never got over his first wife, time stops and he lives in that failure for ever.

Very interesting. I have battled alcoholism and bi-polar disorder for more than 25 years; and I have had contact with AA on and off since 1987.
You make some good points.
All the best.
Paul.
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